فون ماستر
16-09-2001, 01:39 AM
اخواني لاحضنا كثير من الدول قدمة المساعدات لأمريكا بتبرع بالدم وغيره كما انها اعلنت استعدادها للنيل من الجاني حتى لو كان مسلم او عربي
فهل تعتقدون ان هذا ذكاء من الدول العربيه ام خيانه واضحه
مغترب
16-09-2001, 07:03 AM
تأييدك أو رفضك ما راح يغير شيء من موقف حكامك. لأنك تعرف جيدا أنهم لا يأخذون برأيك، إذا كان مسموحا لك أصلا أن تبدي مثل هذا الرأي.
Viper_Guy
16-09-2001, 08:06 PM
I read your message, Mohammed, and a do agree with you.
From what I understand you are an Arab-American, or an American who became Muslim. Anyway, as such, I do understand that you use moderate words when speaking of your country, America.
As an European, VERY fond of US and especially of ITS PEOPLE, I will be more straight forward, as this gives me the necessary freedom to speak my mind, especially taking into account that I do love America, and that one is allowed to critize what or who we love, cause I do not mean any harm to you.
As an European, I am grateful to America for coming over twice to help us out of horror. But, at the same time, I am not stupid and do understand that America's help was, and is, not free. It is like a mother and father's love to a child: For having raised their child, given him you food, shelter and love, does this entitles them to "possess" their child for the rest of his/her life?
It is more or less what America is doing with Europe: you have helped us, OK, but not only out of pure compassion, but also out of financial and interest reasons, (I am not talking about the poor soldiers who gave their lifes, They are in my heart and I say thanks. I am talking about your government).
Now you are attacked by terrorists, which is a terrible and coward act against you and all of us, because in Europe everyone was shocked and myself the day I was told of this (I choose to have no television at my home) I burst into tears and cannot help being sad and depressed ever since, as though it had happened to beloved ones.
But if I was shocked and horrified by the terrorist attack, I am also shocked and horrified to hear how America react now: you, and us, have not finished to mourn and cry for the death of your beloved, that your government is already talking about going to bomb such and such place! And we Europeans should be with you, eyes closed.
Why such a hurry? Who are you going to bomb? Other innocent civilians, just like the terrorist did to you? Just like you, and we, did in Iraq, as Mohammed rightly said in his post, and no one cried for them. Like the Israelis did, and are still doing, in Lebanon and Palestine? Like recently in ex-Yougoslavia? Why the hell are you in such a big hurry? Would it be because war is a business, and in America where everything is big, it's a BIG business. What is it that you need? To use, as quick as possible, in the best delays, your weapons, in order to be able to produce more and continue to make money out of it? Please tell me that I am wrong. Because that's what it looks like, in my eyes.
I am not saying that we should do nothing. Something, maybe, should be done, maybe even military action be taken, but not so blindly as it seems you are going to do it. As an European I say NO. We want the REAL responsibles, some of whom may even be among you, or among us here, live in your bosom and be fed by your system, which happens to be also our system over here. What I mean is that, SOME responsibles (= brain) could eventually be REAL Americans, or Europeans (=not at all Arabs or Islamists). JFK's killer, people like me are certain now, was America herself, and it was one of your children that bombed that federal building years ago.
America wake up!
We want the real justice. The death of all these civilians, Americans, Palestinians, Israelis, ex-Yougoslavian, Iraqis, etc. cannot be vain. We want REAL JUSTICE. Not something quickly made up.
America, we beg you, do not start a war. I know that, as Europeans, we should be allied, but under these circumstances how could we follow you blindly? Let's first cry out all our tears, give time and space to sorrow and mourning, and then let's sit down, think and feel. Think with our heads and feel with our hearts. Do not stand in front of us as a master, America, telling us what we have to do. If Freedom is really your motto, then allow the rest of the world to be free, allow us to think with our own minds and to feel with our hearts.
America, I am talking to you from the bottom of my heart. How many times in my youth have I dreamed to become one of your children, to cross the ocean for ever and leave the old continent behind me not to come back here for the rest of my life. Your spaces, your opportunities, your different people, your democracy,and these words in front of my eyes: FREEDOM, NEW LIFE, NEW START....
Now the dream is broken, because I have seen your other face, America, one I do not like very much. When I was a child, I looked up to my parents and they were gods to me, my only reference, my only shelter in this unfriendly world. Now that I am an adult, I see them the way they are, with their defaults and qualities, but I continue to love them. Maybe, even more than when I was a child.
In the same way, I still love you America, but I cannot cheer for all what you do.
If you start a war, I will not cheer for you. But if you seek for real justice, then God bless you and maybe you will be again the country of my dreams.
God help all the people of this Earth who suffer in their flesh and mourn their beloved; and God gives us the right judgement to elect the right people in our governments, so that there is less suffering on this Earth.
".. And if it is a despot you would dethrone, see first that his throne erected within you is destroyed.
For how can a tyrant rule the free and the proud, but for a tyranny in their own freedom and a shame in their own pride?"
Khalil Gibran, The Prophet, "Speak to us of Freedom.
All my Love to my brothers and sisters on this Earth, and especially to my American friends for the recent events.
Maria
ميس الريم
16-09-2001, 11:24 PM
طبعا لا ...وألف لا
لا أريد مطلقا مساندة امريكا فيما زعموا أنه ((محنة))
لإنني لا ارى في محنتهم سوى انها حصاد زرعهم الذي زرعوه
shahab
17-09-2001, 12:24 AM
^1
الاخ فون السؤال هل تسكت الشعوب الاسلاميه اذا تجاوزت امريكا اما الحكومات فلا حول لها ولا قوه