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Eclipse
28-01-2006, 06:06 AM
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

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Ford owners not told of ways to reduce fuel-tank fire risk


http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/US/01/23/ford.fires/story.limo.jpg


http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/US/01/23/ford.fires/story.car.jpg



Tuesday, January 24, 2006; Posted: 1:42 a.m. EST (06:42 GMT)

The sisters' rented limousine burst into flames when it was hit from behind in North Carolina.
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Manage Alerts | What Is This? MOCKSVILLE, North Carolina (CNN) -- The parents of three sisters burned to death in a rear-end crash are asking Ford Motor Co. to install the same gas tank protective devices in regular models as it did for its police cars.

Tara Parker, 29, Mysti Poplin, 24, and Megan Howell, 16, died two years ago inside a Lincoln Town Car limousine that burst into flames after it was caught in a traffic jam and hit from behind by a speeding pick-up truck in Greensboro, North Carolina.

Ford settled out-of-court with the families last week, days before their lawsuit was to be heard. The terms of the settlement were not disclosed.

In 2002, after a dozen police officers had died in fiery rear-end crashes over a decade's time, Ford created rubber and plastic shields to cover sharp parts around the fuel tank of the Crown Victoria police car to help prevent punctures and fires.

Ford has three civilian models - the regular Crown Victoria, the Town Car, and the Mercury Grand Marquis - that have the gas tank in the same location, sticking up in the trunk area. These are the only American-made automobiles with the tank behind the rear axle.

At the time Ford announced the introduction of the shields - now standard equipment on police cars - its top safety official said civilian drivers do not need them because they do not use their cars like police officers, who often stop alongside high-speed expressways, exposed to onrushing traffic.

Ricky Howell said that when his daughters died their car was "sitting still, just like a patrol car, sitting in traffic."

Ford engineers found the limousine's fuel tank had been pierced by a bolt that would have been protected by the shields on police cars.

In September, Ford notified limousine makers it now would provide the shields free for Lincoln Town Cars turned into stretch limousines.

Howell and his wife, Brenda, said after the settlement, "We know shields have been tested and shown to work in crashes of up to 100 miles an hour." They said the shields should be available in all three of the Ford-made models that have the same tank position and added, "It should not take more deaths to make this happen."

Autopsy reports showed two of the sisters were unhurt by the impact. The third, Parker, did suffer some internal injuries. But the cause of death for each was listed as burns and smoke inhalation.

Parker, the oldest sister, was a heart transplant survivor. She and her husband had recently adopted a baby son. Poplin was also a new mother. Howell, the youngest, was a high school honor student and cheerleader.

Parker had rented the limousine as a surprise to take her two half-sisters to a Fleetwood Mac concert on the night of September 10, 2003. They had just pulled onto an interstate highway, leaving the concert, when the limo was rammed from behind.

Limousine driver James Canady told CNN, "I saw flames shooting past the window and I said, 'Oh my God, we're on fire.' "

He kicked his door open and escaped, but he could not reach the sisters trapped in the back. "I heard one of the ladies scream, 'Oh my God!' And that was all I heard, and that was it," Canady said.

Ford has blamed the North Carolina deaths on the driver of the pick-up. He was drunk and was convicted of involuntary manslaughter. The driver was sentenced to almost five years in prison.

Last October, in a deposition that was part of the North Carolina lawsuit, Ford's safety vice president, Susan Cischke, said this about the shields: "When I made the decision to put them on limos, nothing else had changed my thinking regarding the civilian population so that was not recommended."

While Ford has never mailed anything to car owners about the shields, motorists can go to dealers to ask for them to be installed at their own expense. This covers every model year for the three regular car types going back as far as 1992.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is watching the matter, a spokesman said, but has no plans to begin any investigation. He said this is considered a consumer issue between the car owner and the manufacturer.

Ford says all its cars are safe and are required to pass rear-end crash tests at 50 mph, the highest standard in the industry. All of the known fatal fires and crashes in these models, both police and civilian, have happened at 60 mph or faster.

Ford's police cars, now with the shields, have passed crash tests at even greater speeds. Since the shields were made available to the police more than three years ago, there was not been a single patrol-car death in a fire blamed on the puncture of a gas tank.

At the same time Ford came up with the shields, it offered police the option of buying a reinforced storage pack for items in the trunk to keep them from piercing the tank in rear-end crashes.

Last April, in Wood River, Illinois, a jury awarded a woman $43.7 million in damages after her husband died when the force of a rear-end crash pushed a wrench through the tank of their Town Car sedan. She was badly burned in the fire.

The jury foreman, Edward Friedel, said Ford should have given civilian drivers the opportunity to buy the same storage pack.

In deliberations, Friedel said, "One juror just blurted out, 'Does anybody feel that Ford did something wrong?' and that's when, unanimously, everybody said yes, they withheld the truth."

Ford is appealing the verdict, arguing it did not get a fair trial.

Ford says all makes and models can have fires in collisions, not just their own. What safety critics say is significant, though, is that Ford has found an answer for this particular problem and has not shared it with most of the public.

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source: http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/23/ford.fires/index.html





Eclipse

الهاوي جروب
28-01-2006, 09:44 AM
شكرا لك اخوي

أبو حسين
28-01-2006, 11:24 AM
بصراحة قوية ولازم تشوف حل سريع..

مشكور أخوي..

الرشيق
28-01-2006, 11:39 AM
اخوي ارجوا انه اترجم المكتوب في المره القادمه حتى ولو بشكل مختصر لانه صعبه نقعد نقرى كل هاي :D ومشكور

sayedco
28-01-2006, 02:00 PM
اخوي ارجوا انه اترجم المكتوب في المره القادمه حتى ولو بشكل مختصر لانه صعبه نقعد نقرى كل هاي :D ومشكور


ترجم لنا في 4 سطور على الأقل نفهم شالسالفة :D

CL-Class
28-01-2006, 02:01 PM
فورد تواجه قضايا مرفوعه ضدها في المحاكم لاكثر من زبون .......

التهمة .... باختصار

عيب تصنيعي يؤدي لانفجار خزان الوقود في حوادث الاصطدام من الخلف :sleep:
حيث حاولت الشركة ترقيع المشكلة لكن لافائده :o

Eclipse
28-01-2006, 06:19 PM
I am sorry guys , I cant write in Arabic.


The problem basically is that there is a piece between the trunk and the fuel tank that could prevent the car to go on fire in the case of a rear crash!!!


Ford replaced ALL Police cars ONLY because they stop at the side of the highways which makes them at more risk of rear crash more than Taxis or Private cars who own any of those models starting I think from 1992 to 2005!

Once again, Ford replaced ONLY Police cars because they are at "higher risk", unlike Private cars or Taxis!!

The piece costs approximately $150!! its cheap, and it could save a life!!!

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/US/01/23/ford.fires/story.car.jpg



a women was burned and her husband died in a Crown Victoria Taxi :( but she got $40 millions in compensation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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someone please translate what I wrote up here!


Eclipse

مؤيد اف1
28-01-2006, 07:47 PM
ياخي حادث قوي جداً شي محتمل يصير فيه هالشي !



تحياتي

infiniti
28-01-2006, 09:02 PM
ياخي حادث قوي جداً شي محتمل يصير فيه هالشي !



تحياتي


على طول اشتغل محامي الدفاع الامريكي العضو مؤيد اف 1

:D

مؤيد اف1
28-01-2006, 09:27 PM
ايوه :D


ياما شفت سيارات متنوعه محترقه في حوادث..ماشوف احد قال شي غير لوم السايق على السرعه والقيادة الجنونيه الانتحاريه :D



تحياتي

Eclipse
28-01-2006, 10:21 PM
ايوه :D


ياما شفت سيارات متنوعه محترقه في حوادث..ماشوف احد قال شي غير لوم السايق على السرعه والقيادة الجنونيه الانتحاريه :D



تحياتي


you are Wrong!!!

Ford did the tests with and withOUT the piece and the results showed that in fact there IS a difference!




Eclipse

مؤيد اف1
28-01-2006, 10:33 PM
I see a piece fitted on the differential ! what does it do? :blink:


isolates the heat?

كراون فكتوريا
29-01-2006, 03:50 AM
احم احم وصلت لا احد يتكلم على الفورد ولا :knight:
عادي تصير باحسن السيارات شمعنى الناس حاطين براسهم الفورد على العموم مايصير الا الخير والله يستر علينا

أبو حسين
29-01-2006, 10:37 AM
احم احم وصلت لا احد يتكلم على الفورد ولا :knight:
عادي تصير باحسن السيارات شمعنى الناس حاطين براسهم الفورد على العموم مايصير الا الخير والله يستر علينا


بيني وبينك أنا من محبي الفورد :D

بس فورد مو وحدها واجهت هالمشكلة..((في عندك الألتيما وحكاية إحتراقها دون سبب))

طلع من تانك البنزين..

على طول اشتغل محامي الدفاع الامريكي العضو مؤيد اف 1

ياخوفي يطالبنا بالملايين عشان ذمينا الأمريكي :D :D :D

تحياتي..

مؤيد اف1
29-01-2006, 02:28 PM
والله خوش فكره :think:

sayedco
29-01-2006, 03:06 PM
في الحوادث الخشنة ، معقولة ما توصل الضربة إلى خزان البنزين و يسرب و بأقل شرارة BOOOOOOOM

و بعدين زين ذكرتني بالألتيما و الإحتراق الذاتي :D

هذا اعتبره خلل ، لأانه بدون أي سبب تحترق السيارة ، لكن هذي الفورد على الأقل في حادث خشن

أبوالزين
29-01-2006, 10:19 PM
في الحوادث الخشنة ، معقولة ما توصل الضربة إلى خزان البنزين و يسرب و بأقل شرارة BOOOOOOOM

و بعدين زين ذكرتني بالألتيما و الإحتراق الذاتي :D

هذا اعتبره خلل ، لأانه بدون أي سبب تحترق السيارة ، لكن هذي الفورد على الأقل في حادث خشن

صحيح

B4_STI
30-01-2006, 01:55 AM
معقووول من شركه لها اسمها... :think:

كراون فكتوريا
30-01-2006, 03:47 AM
ياشباب الفورد فيه نظام الطوارئ و هو انقظاع البنزين عن المكينة لا صار حادث و قد صارتلي و المفتاح حقها موجود في الدبة ووووين تلقون هذا النظام

مؤيد اف1
30-01-2006, 03:49 AM
هذا الشي في اكثر السيارات الامريكيه..

Eclipse
30-01-2006, 10:12 AM
يبدوا ان هناك سؤء فهم :confused:

شباب... فورد اجرت التجارب على هذي السيارات بالقطعة وبدونها والنتيجة فعلا القطعة تمنع انفجار الخزان!!!

الي يملك اي من السيارات اعلاه من موديل 1992 الى الان الرجاء مراجعة الوكيل المحلي !!! القطعة سعرها 150$ فقط وقد تنقذ حياتك في حال اصطدام خلفي لاقدر الله !!



Eclipse

Eclipse
30-01-2006, 10:23 AM
http://www.vehicle-injuries.com/ford-crown-victoria.htm
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/01/ford_taxi_fires.html
http://www.yourlawyer.com/articles/read/11201



:D
http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1230&pid=17492&st=0&#entry17492

:D
http://forums.autoweek.com/thread.jspa?forumID=9&threadID=26410&tstart=0